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Forums >> Texas Hunting >> Texas Hog Hunting >> Good Hog Caliber...243???

Good Hog Caliber...243???

pumphouse

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QUESTION

My dad and brother are coming to Texas in April for a hog hunt and want to know what the best calibers are.  My dad has a .243 that he would like to use, but that seems a little light to me.  The hunt will most likely be for meat hogs, 150 lbs or less.  I will probably use a .308 or 30-06.  What are your suggestions?

Thanks!!!

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TheGeneralStore1861
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a .243 will do the job. I've used a .223 before, and that worked fine. Both of those other calibers you named will do great as well. General rule of thumb for me personally is anything above a .223 will do the job. In my opinion it depends more on shot placement. hope it helps

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brown9s

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Shoot them in the ear hole, they drop like rocks. I have shot large pigs thru the heart with large calibers and they have ran over 100 yards.

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I recommend a .308/.30-06 unless you have a well made bullet for that .243 (i.e. something that will penetrate like partition, bonded spitzer, triple shock, etc.).  If you go for heart/lung shots hogs, especially big ones, have a sheath of cartilage around their vitals that can be hard to penetrate, and I've seen bullets fragment on that cartilage unless the bullet can stay together. 

If you shoot them in the ear hole that'll sure do the job, but you also have to be confident in your shooting skills.

BTW, if you can't tell already not everyone is going to have the same opinion!

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pumphouse

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Thanks for the suggestions.  If I will leave it up to my dad what he wants to shoot, and make sure if he uses the .243 that we get the right bullet.  I might even pick up a 45-70 between now and then.

I am pretty confident in my and my dad and brothers skills, but I prefer to put a round in the boiler room.  They may run, but I have never lost an animal when the shot was good.  On the other hand this will be my first hog!

I was going to go to the Langley ranch but they are already booked up through July.  Joe recommended a neighboring family ranch that is just getting started.  I believe it is the Tubbs?? ranch.  I spoke with the guide and he garunteed us hogs.  Does anyone know about this place?  It sounded OK and from what I have read I don't think Joe would recommend it if it was no good.

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furboom

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i have shot hogs with 7mm, .243, 9mm, .22 and 17hmr. its all about shot placement.  you ca use a 50 cal and have it run off it it's a bad shot.  the .243 is more than enough for a hog, i do use ballistic sliver tips and have yet to have a hog run off.     good hunting and enjoy the time you spend with your dad.

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NathanaelGreene
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I've been using a .30-06 with cheap 150-grain soft points.  They work just fine (haven't lost a hog yet), so I'll stick with them.

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Ryan Campbell
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Hold on a second.  How are you going to be hunting them, and where?  If you are hunting them out of a stand and you have a clear shot and you shoot them in the ear, you should have no problems.

If you are using dogs, and the hog is moving and his adrenaline is pumping and he's moving and the shooter's heart is racing, you may need to bring more gun.

You should probably bring more gun anyway.  A .243 is a varmit rifle, coyotes etc.  If a monster boar steps out and he's got a lot of thick hide and bone to get through, do you really want to come to the fight with a .243?  Basically, if you have to ask, it isn't enough.

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wohalliburton
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Pretty good point Ryan...we've had the joy of tracking wounded hogs before.  Wasn't pretty.  Shot placement is always the key, but under many hunting circumstances bullets don't always go where you plan them to.  Even though he was talking about hunting meat hogs (<150 lbs) a stout .243 bullet will not cleanly kill a big hog unless shot is right on. And,  I don't like planning for only the best-case scenario.

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wheeless621
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Brown county

I carry a Marlin lever .45-70 for hogs. unless I'm pistol hunting, then I carry a .44mag. you can NEVER have too much gun when hunting porky.

Guns don't kill people....Its those pesky little bullets making lots of holes that all the blood leaks out of.

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pumphouse

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Point taken...even though the hunt will be mainly for meat hogs from stands or blinds, I seriously doubt any of us would be able to pass up a trophy boar given the opportunity.  I will steer my dad towards a .308 or 30-06.  Will standard big game rounds (i.e. rem core lock 180gr psp etc) provide good enough penetration?  I have seen bullet pass through on decent sized bull elk with 165 grain rem psp in 30-06, so they should do the job on most hogs.

Thanks again to all for the help!!!

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veryfastbullet

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We trapped 13 hogs one morning and trailered them to my place in Montgomery.  No one thought to bring a gun.  The only thing I had immediately available was a Ruger 10-22 that I was doing some work on.  The little carbine had no iron sights and the scope was removed for the repairs.

I killed 12 of those hogs with one shot each with that Ruger, the distances between 6 and 16 feet.  The long rifle, hollow point ammo did good work when the shot placement was proper.  I was shooting for the ear canal and was successful except for one hog.

Any caliber will kill a hog when the shot is placed properly and the remaining energy at the distance of the hog is reasonable. 

But a canon will wound horribly if placement and distance are poorly chosen.

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dixonhunt

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a .243 is plenty I have killed several hogs over 250 lbs and never tracked one . Shoot for the ear and there will be no problem.

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bhebert
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How about buckshot with a full choke 12 gauge?  I'm hunting a preserve that sllows no rifles.  Will that get the job done?

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hogkiller
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Yes bhebert, buckshot will get the job done no problem.  243 is fine but I use a 7 mag.  A 243 will have no problem with a hog as long as you put the bullet in a good spot.

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wheeless621
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Brown county

Shot placement is always the key factor, Even with my "cannon". but when your not shooting 'fish in a barrel' at a few feet, strange things do happen (pig spooks and jumps, turns at just the wrong second, etc.) and if you hit it wrong with a "cannon" and just wound it, it will probably die pretty soon anyway from blood loss. Alot quicker than if you hit it wrong with a pea shooter, and it stumbles around for a week or more before an infection or something kills it slowly. Yes any gun can kill a pig with a proper shot. But any gun can kill a deer with a proper shot also, but they made it illegal to shoot deer with a rim-fire for a reason.

Every time someone posts about a proper calibre for any reason many people here start acting like every hunter is an Olympic class marksman. Even the best make mistakes now and then.

Guns don't kill people....Its those pesky little bullets making lots of holes that all the blood leaks out of.

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Ryan Campbell
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Dana is correct.  Very correct.  A lot of hunters are carrying $300 rifles with $50 scopes on them.  These are fairly accurate but not precision and not every shot everyone makes will be pin point in every situation.

I've killed hogs with everything from my knife, to .22's to 45-70's, .308's etc.  However,  I've killed hundreds of them in my lifetime and I have the experience to do it.  Someone coming in from out of state with limited experience and not knowing the exact situation they will be hunting in, needs to bring more gun.

If you ever catch a pissed off Russian Boar that weighs about 250-275 and has 3inch+ cutters on him and he's already gutted a dog or two and he's coming at you....a .243 won't be enough gun.  You aren't going to be able to put it in his ear, mostly because you'll be getting out of his way. 

Sitting in a deer blind on a bright sunny 70 degree day with no wind and the hog is at a deer feeder, sure.  Kiss him in the ear and he'll drop.  But planning for every situation to be that pristine is asking for trouble and someone will get hurt. 

Bring more gun.

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kikin
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.243 is an excellent round also consider 7mm-08 it has similar ballistics of a .270 with less recoil.

 

be safe!

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veryfastbullet

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Wheeless, don't make the mistake of thinking I have only killed hogs in a fish barrel.  Maybe you'd like to come hunting some day.  I'll let you borrow one of my Thompson Contenders and we'll get a tad closer than you might like.

The reason many states outlawed use of the .22 (NOT just the rimfire) is because some infinately brilliant individual decided a bullet's killing ability somehow was based upon it's size.  It was because the .22 was outlawed that the 24 caliber was brought into being.

In many states, it was also determined that a handgun was an ineffective weapon, and it was also outlawed for deer hunting.  When California originally relented to pressure from the handgun fraternity, it did so by establishing a law that required a minimum of 600 pound-feet of muzzle energy.  Somehow, in its wisdom, California (and other states) has ignored an individual hunters proficiency, though, with any legal weapon.

 

At this past seasons end, I found a fine specimen of an eight point deer in a Sam Houston Nat'l Forest gully, where it had obviously limped off and died.  In the right-side shoulder blade are 2 bullet holes that I believe are 22 caliber.  But I am convinced of a .22s ability to kill a deer-size animal.  In this particular instance, the shooter was simply a consistantly poor shot.  (The shoulder blade, for crying out loud?)

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pumphouse

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First off, thanks for every ones advice.  I think that for any situation that we will face, the .243 will do the job, knock on wood!

As far as the post by veryfastbullet is concerned, 22's should be left for killing gophers and rabbits and nothing bigger.  don't doubt the 22s ability to provide a fatal shot, but there is no reason to push the limits of a caliber that is EXTREMELY undersized for deer and hogs.  Obviously since I am the author of this post I am no expert, but at 100 yds and 40 grain you are looking at 100? ft*lbs of energy?  I fart more than that!!! on the other hand 100 grain .243, 1788 ft*lbs! how can you compare?  Am I missing something?

Please enlighten me.

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pumphouse

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By the way, I just got a Navy Arms 45-70 bolt action, built off an old Enfield that I will be using with 325 grn Hornaday Leverevoution rounds.  Shoulder blade or not, I smell bacon cooking!!!

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wheeless621
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Brown county

I too am convinced that a .22 can kill a deer. That wasn't the point I was making. If you would read my posts again, I agreed that shot placement is the key factor in any type of hunting. You proved my point with your last paragraph. I'm not saying to hunt deer with a .45-70, (the original question is about hogs) but if the first of those two bad shots on the deer you found had been a .45-70 that deer probably wouldn't have limped away. The first shot to the shoulder blade would have shattered everything in its path. So like I said, thanks for proving my point. And thanks for the invite, but I can assure you that you can't get me any closer to hogs than I've already been.

Guns don't kill people....Its those pesky little bullets making lots of holes that all the blood leaks out of.

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Bob D

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Stanton, did you guys hunt Langleys?  Did your Dad use the .243?  Been there and planning on going back for my son to take his first hog.  Unless, I get an opportunity from now till next Feb.  Bob D.

 

 

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aggydaddy

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12ga. 00 buckshot for hogs-- It will knock 'em down if you keep it close (under 40 yds.).  Be prepared to deliver a follow up shot with a pistol.

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Matt Truitt
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My advise to anyone that is limited to having to use a shotgun is to... USE SLUGS. Yes buckshot might work 40 yards in but past that youll just make em mad. I will use a rifle when I can(30-06 with 150 grain rem cor lok) and have dropped EVERY one I hit. Cept for one that ran 50 yards, but then again that bullet had already gone through one hog.

When I am reduced to only using shotgun. I use my Mossberg 835 (turkey gun) with a rifled barrel(cost about 150). Put a nice 50 dollar SHOTGUN scope on it and site it in with hornady SST SABOTS. They are pricey, but still give you a range of AT least 150 yards. No question about it. This setup is what I found best.

I have used .223 and watched a perfect shot run 100 plus yards. Ive used 30 30 and 7mm 08 with no problems. Anything bigger than a 270 would be plenty of gun.

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ccoker

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not to add fuel to the fire but I can't believe only one person brought up the actual bullet..   a 243 is a FINE deer or hog gun with the RIGHT bullet

put a barnes bullet in the neck, behind the ear or slightly low of center directly into the shoulders and it's time to get to work

hit them in the shoulder at 20 yards with generic softpoint (plenty for deer) and it may blow up and not make it to the vitals

don't use varmint bullets of course...

 

 

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landrysmith

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I hsve always used .243 win 150 grain bullets and have dropped 3 pigs at about 50 yards with a shot to the shoulder , 338 lapua is very good if you can afford it also .

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Lovemy 375H&H

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I have never had a hog get away from me and my .375 H&H. I love this caliber. 270 gr soft points just about anywhere north of the shoulder does just fine.

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