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New Deer Hunter Need Help....

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First, welcome to the site.  There are a number of folks here that will try to help you in any way they can so feel free to talk about anything you might need to get started. 

If you want to meet some hunters try to frequent a gun shop, shooting range, or someplace where they congregate and start asking questions.  At most places I've gone there will be a number of folks very willing to share their experiences, and over the years I've really learned a lot from essentially complete strangers.

You're on the right track about equipment too - its paramount.  While many people shoot a .243 I'd strongly recommend something heavier if and when you buy.  There are a number of choices (.270, 7mm Rem Mag, .30-06, .308, are a few), but a .25-06 Remington is a minimum in my opinion.  That .303 you have sinks like a rock after 100 yards (my first deer rifle was a .303 Enfield) and can't tell you much about your Mauser.  Depending on where you hunt they could work for the short term, but understand you'd have to learn how those rifles behave and likely limit your range.  Also, when you get your rifle there are some things to consider for purchasing ammunition, gun cleaning, and breaking-in the barrel.

Here is a link to a by-the-numbers method on how to field dress a deer.  There are also some you tube videos on the subject out there.

Hope this helps.

Scientific Breeders Suck! (unethical)

Summary:

To me the taking of a buck that scores umpty gillion B & C isn't much of an accomplishment unless its done with a free range deer (i.e. no steroids or hormones) and fair chase.  I agree with Will that people can choose how they hunt and that this type of high fence hunting is not unethical.  But, trying to genetically manipulate deer so that they score more and brighter just so someone with a big wallet can blow it away to show that he's an accomplished hunter kind of brings hunting down to simple dollars and cents issue.  To me, there will always be something more to hunting than that...much more.  Yeah, I like getting a wallhanger as much as the next guy, but there's also the comraderie of family and friends as well as the elation of a crisp cool morning or evening just being outdoors.

You can't put a price tag on memories or experiences like those.

Did I buy the wrong rifle?

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Texas is pretty diverse in its habitat and there are a lot of variables that dictate body size. It can depend on where you hunt in Texas, the age of the deer, genetics, deer density, the availability of food that year, and the degree to which food is supplemented by the landowner/manager...up in the NTX area (Shackleford Co.) you can see free range deer drress out easily in the 150-170 lb range.  WTX can get up to 150-160 lbs, and of course STX can get over 200 lbs. 

How many acres per hunter do you recommend?

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Andrew,

I agree - the price of land is getting insane.  10 years ago it was way less than half the price it is today, sometimes less than a quarter depending where you're talking about.  In ETX you'll have to work very hard to but land for under $2,000/ac.  The places I've looked at in Coleman Co. usually aren't less than $1,500/ac, and you really wonder what you're getting at that price.  If you lease land, with prices lately getting up into the $8-10/acre range, at 200 ac/hunter that's anywhere from $1,600 to $2,000 a gun.

We're considering getting a small place...problem is, it keeps getting smaller!!!!

Where to shoot with grandson

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You may already have this, but here's a link for the NRA-affiliated gun ranges in Texas.  Saw one close to you in Conroe, as well as others in Spring and Livingston.  The one in Spring is Carter's Country, which I understand is a pretty big operation.

NRA affiliation is not guarantee that the range will work for you, but at least its a start.  Hope this helps - let us know how things turn out.

Wearing Safety Glasses at the Range

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A number of years ago I bought some ammunition from a major manufacturer, in bulk.  When I took it to the range I knew something didn't sound right at the first shot, plus I had a hard time opening the bolt.  The primer looked flattened, but not really bad.  Throwing the behavior off to a fluke I shot the second time.  This time, unburned powder hit my face, I had a REAL hard time getting the round out of the chamber, and the primer looked more flattened.  After cleaning my gun and swabbing it out I made the mistake of shooting it one more time.  Fortunately I didn't get hurt, but a lot but burning powder got on my face and arms and it took me quite a while to get the round out.  The primer was flat as a pancake and had blown out of the brass.  Finally I had had enough and sent the ammunition back to the manufacturer after a frank phone conversation.  Several weeks later they sent some sort of cryptic report saying (I think) that their ammunition tested within tolerances...I also got some new ammunition, which didn't have any problems.  In fact, we haven't problems ever since (we still buy ammo from this company).

My point is even in the best and most controlled of situations things might happen at a rifle range, and you never know where the problem is going to come from so prepare accordingly.

The Case for .260 Remington: A Better Cartridge For Practical Long-Range Shooting

The Case for .260 Remington: A Better Cartridge For Practical Long-Range Shooting
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The .260 Rem may be a fine cartridge...but I admit I can't be objective because of its history.  Remington has an occasional penchant for trying to make cartridges obsolete, and the .260 Remington was a perfect 'case' in point.  When they introduced this round back in the late '80s-early '90s they also discontinued almost all of their .25-06 ammunition and slashed the number of rifles they chambered for that round.  I owned a .25-06 at the time and was shooting their ammunition...kinda wondered what was going on.  Fortunately this has turned-around in the last 5-10 years, with Federal and others bringing-out new ammunition lines and Remington starting to make more .25-06s again.  But, I sold the .25-06 much to my shagrin. 

long shot

Summary: 9 pt at 550 yards using a Remington Sendero in 7mm Rem Mag, Leupold 3.5 x 10 scope.  Wouldn't even think of trying that again unless I had practiced at that distance...right now I wouldn't try anything over 300 yards.  Bullet only drops 9" or so with a 200 yard zero.  As it is its really hard to even find a 300 yard range anymore.

looking for a deer lease

Summary: 6 hours from Angelton will get you almost to Fort Stockton (between there and Ozona)...there are good places to hunt in Pecos County and east along I-10 (Terrell, Sutton, Ozona, Val Verde, Crockett, Menard, Kimble, Edwards, Schleicher, et al).  You ought to be able to access some of the newspapers from Midland and San Angelo or a county chamber of commerce like this one on line...occasionally you'll find decent leads there.  Like William said its never easy to find the right place, but with that price range you ought to be able to find something.  One thing to think about - its going to be a little harder to find a lease for just you and your son...might want to find an existing lease with 2 slots.  I hate suggesting that because you could end-up hunting with some difficult people, but the leases out there do have a tendency to be larger.  We've hunted in Pecos, Kimble, and Schleicher Cos. and have friends that currently hunt in Sutton.  There are some nice places in spots along that route.  Hope you find something - let us know how you do.

Hunting Mistakes!

Summary: My son and I went hunting during the rut this year...he took a very nice 10 point the second day we were out.  We were out the next morning watching a field where we had seen a group of does, thinking they'd have some male company.  Well, morning came and no deer.  We were walking back to camp in the middle of a road when we saw movement.  We had a 5 minute staredown with a couple of does at 130 yards who trotted off.  Fortunately we were in full camo so they really couldn't see us at that range and the wind was in our favor. Well, behind those two doe were 2 others with a large buck behind them.  I got my gun up and got a fairly good look at him (heavy horned 8, 18"-19") and decided to turn down the shot because I thought he was immature.  He may really have been but BOY I wish I had that shot to look over again!  Didn't see another decent buck.  The landowner told me later there was a big 'un hanging around the area we were in and I knew that was the one he was talking about, so now I have some doubts as to my decision.  We've all been there before but it still doesn't make thinking about it for the next 10 months any easier!  That's when we started paying attention to the buck scoring tests Hardy had on this site (thanks Hardy), and we started pouring over some books on aging bucks.  They say when you see a big one you'll know, and generally that's true in my few opportunities of seeing one through a riflescope.  But, its pays to be prepared and frankly I wasn't as well as I could have been.  Next year, Lord willing, I will be.

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