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How many acres per hunter do you recommend?

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Andrew,

I agree - the price of land is getting insane.  10 years ago it was way less than half the price it is today, sometimes less than a quarter depending where you're talking about.  In ETX you'll have to work very hard to but land for under $2,000/ac.  The places I've looked at in Coleman Co. usually aren't less than $1,500/ac, and you really wonder what you're getting at that price.  If you lease land, with prices lately getting up into the $8-10/acre range, at 200 ac/hunter that's anywhere from $1,600 to $2,000 a gun.

We're considering getting a small place...problem is, it keeps getting smaller!!!!

Priced right out of hunting

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I understand your frustration with the lease situation, and rest assured you're not alone when it comes to losing a lease because of greed.  But, the problem I have with what you're proposing isn't about hurdles and issues, its the fundamental premise on which you base what you want to do.  These landowners have every right to do what they legally want with their land!  To try to get Ted Nugent (I doubt he'd go along with it) to drum-up support from a large group of people to coerce a 'rich' landowner into giving his hunting rights to 'poorer' hunters, or being paid less than what he thinks is fair, is exactly the entitlement thinking that Mike talked about earlier.

Read what happened to the Kulaks in Russia during the late '20s and early '30s'.   Stalin's Soviet government 'demonized' these family-run (and mostly peasant) farms and threatened them with the force of their 'poorer' populace and their army: either join the collective farms or get wiped out.  Now before anyone twists what I am saying I fully realize that you are not suggesting the same thing.  But, the reasoning you are employing is similar.  My question is - who gave the Soviet Government the right to do that to a landowner?  My question to you is - who gives you that right?

How to get deer?

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Brice,

The only real dependable way you're going to keep water on a parcel of land in WTX without a natural 'catch' for it (draw, drainage, etc.) is to drill a well and put a pump or windmill in it to supply your trough/tank.  Do you have a well?  If not, getting one put in is usually a pretty expensive proposition.  I doubt you'd be able to dig a tank deep enough, the problem being evaporation and no natural source to support refilling it.

As far as bedding goes, look for patches of grass or places under a tree that have been flattened...often when a bed is fresh you can see the outline of the deer.  These patches usually will not be found in the same place, depending on how much the deer move for food, though generally deer bed on the edge of, or slightly away from, open fields like William said.  But, if you have deer staying on your place they will bed in the same general area. 

Took the plunge...bought some land

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Jan,

My wife's family is from up in Red River Co. - there's some good deer hunting there, especially if there's hardwoods around your place.  As far as hogs go, I've seen some folks take 'em well over 400 lbs up that way.  Congratulations!

P.S.: Be prepared though.  I about fell over first weekend of rifle season a few years back when they were in full rut.  I've heard they can get pretty active even at the end of bow season.

Land for Lease

Land for Lease
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I worked around the Sheffield area for several years back in the late '90s.  There are some good places to hunt back in that country...how far off of 349 are you and are you near the old Mitchell ranch/ranches?  I remember that they are in Terrell Co. but the county line is pretty close.

They found out they were losing their lease, so they shot everything they could

They found out they were losing their lease, so they shot everything they could
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I hear what you guys, and have seen the very things you are talking about happen...unfortunately far too often.  But, in the final analysis, regardless of why this group got kicked-off it's the landowner's right to do as he pleases - its his land and, like most of us, those hunters probably signed a one year lease.  After that period the landowner has fulfilled his obligations and next year is a brand new ball game.

I agree with William.  A landowner's apparent less-than-fair treatment of his hunters never justifies retaliation...and, if this email is correct, that's exactly what they did.

Hunting near Del Rio?

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Since Texas doesn't have a lot of public land, I'm sure you've figured out that you're just about going to have to pay someone to hunt here.  There are packaged hunts for hogs, but really with the hog epidemic we have there are a number of ranch owners that will let you hunt about for the asking (and some $$$).  I'm not as familiar with specifics around Del Rio, but up in north Texas they are really having hog problems, and that spells good news for folks that want to hunt them.  I'd start getting with as many ranchers in that area as I could and just ask. 

Some notes of caution - I would be careful hunting hogs as the temperatures get warmer, mainly because the meat spoils more easily and they'll have more parasites.  In case you didn't know, in that part of the world there are also a LOT more rattlesnakes out too. 

And...welcome to Texas!

Great Investment for your Land or Lease

Summary: Nice system...fairly self-contained and limited human contact gives them the opportunity to act more 'wild'.  Price is pretty steep though.  From what I'm told the key to quail management is predator control and habitat...if you have those 2 nailed down then this system is icing on tha cake. 

Once the Season's Over Let the Stories Begin

Once the Season's Over Let the Stories Begin
Summary: Although this is Louisiana humor (the 'deer' was shot in WTX) it was too good to pass up. Thibodeaux's email : Boudreaux, Here's a picture of the new world record whitetail. It was taken by the cousin of a co-worker's sister's, uncle's, best friend's, son-in-law's cousin. It'll score 603 1/...

lampasas Texas

Summary:

Assuming you are hunting in Lampasas County, TPW says this:

"Open Season: November 3-January 6. Buck bag limit: 2, to include no more than one with an inside spread of 13 inches or greater. Antlerless bag limit: 2. A legal buck deer is a deer having at least one unbranched antler, or an inside spread of 13 inches or greater. The inside spread requirement does not apply to to any buck having an unbranched antler. These provisions do not apply on properties for which Level 2 or Level 3 MLDPs have been issued. No permit is required to hunt antlerless deer unless MLDP antlerless permits have been issued for the tract of land."

If you're not hunting in Lampasas Co., you can get county-by-county summaries here .

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