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Wind and Deer Hunting

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Very well said Larry. Animals get "acclimated" to a specific area and everything in that area as to what is "normal' or not. If there are normally 40 mile per hour winds then they take that as normal and have no problem. If they are used to only slight breezes and get a prolonged wind event, they will bed down and not move. The thing to remember is that they are slaves to thier stomachs and no matter what they will eventually move to eat. This holds true for any animal out there. However, they may go nocturnal in an attempt to feel "safe" to eat. All you can do is try to watch the weather forecast and go at a time that works best for you as the hunter. If you can only get out when it is less than optimal for you, then there are things you can do to help play it down. One is hunt in the most "protected" area where you are hunting. This could be something as easy as down in a creek bottom where the trees protect or something more complicated like using a topo map to find areas that will help deter your scent. Another thing you can do is that if you know the bedding areas general location, it would be a good time for spot and stalk from the downwind side of course. The wind will remove your scent and make it harder for the animals to hear you coming. Hope this helps a little

High Fencing Neighbor

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Whoa, whoa whoa! Let's just everyone take a step back and take a deep breath and relax a little.

 

Let's not all jump all over Yankee for his beliefs. This site is not about fighting, it's about the outdoors and how we all enjoy getting out and do so ethically. Everyone has a right to their opinion. Yankee makes some valid points. I think most would agree that lease prices have gotten out of control but it is supply and demand along with costs related that are driving these prices. Also, there are many of us, me included, that think it is wrong to high fence except under very specific circumstances.

 Yankee, you have to realize that things are done differently down here and as a matter of fact in a lot of other areas around the country today. I do understand what you are saying. I grew up in Arkansas and didn't even know what a lease was till I moved down here. However, things are changing. Greed rules the world and so some people are beginning to take advantage where they can. Others actually need the extra money to live and just use what they have that they can make money off of i.e their land.

As for hunting under a feeder I would ask you to put your opinions aside and think of this rationally. A feeder places a food source in a specific area and yes, the animals learn where it is and come to it. If you hunt a food plot or a field or an oak grove or anything like it, it is the same thing. The animals learn where the food source is and go to it. Either way, you are counting on an animal to come to an area where they know a food source is. The ONLY DIFFERENCE between these is that you can move a feeder. Thats it. If you still don't like the idea of a feeder, by all means don't do it. Just don't tell someone that does use them that they are wrong. It's like telling someone that drives a Ford that they are wrong if they don't drive a Chevy. It's all about preference.

 

Let's all get along please. The animal rights nuts and all the other tree huggers just look for things like this so they can come in and cause more devisions.

 

Good hunting and fishing to everyone and remember leave the outdoors as good or better than you found them so everyone else can enjoy them too.

They found out they were losing their lease, so they shot everything they could

They found out they were losing their lease, so they shot everything they could
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I guess I need to splain what I meant by why they lost the lease. What I was refering to is if the landowner sold it and it will be developed into housing subdivisions or warehouse type areas then I feel that they not only had the right, but probably should have taken these beautiful mature animals. The animals would most likely suffer malnutrition and other problems if that were true. NO, they shouldn't take them just out of spite and to retaliate against the land owner if he's just going too package hunts or a super high "corporate" lease. Waaaayyyyy too many variables to make any kind of informed judgement.

Question:Free hunting anywhere

Summary: Guide girl that is a tough question because I have dream hunts for different animals. If I could only pick one of all animals and anywhere, I guess I would go with Saskatchewan Canada and one of the big bruiser white tails up there.

crossbows

Summary: I know that no one asked for my opinion but I think I will throw in anyway. I just don't see what the problem is with using crossbows. Most of the argument against them is the speed the bolt travels and the draw and hold being seen thing. Well for the first argument, most modern compound bows will travel just as fast as a cross bow. They might need some tweeking but they can reach those speeds with little problem. Then there is also the carbon fiber arrows that help with speed. As for the second argument, all the bow hunters I know have stands that are either material that you shoot through to keep from being seen or they have stands in trees that are above normal line of sight for most animals. A crossbow hunter still has to raise up the weapon and take aim to get a shot. So where is the unfairness? I don't see it. If you want an argument then go to nothing but straight wood not fiberglass long bows and wooden arrows. Untill that point, give it a rest. I will close by saying that I don't bow hunt but if I did, I would want to have all ways and means available so I could choose what works best for me.

Question about how to manage for whitetail on my new land

Summary: Craig, Hardy hit it on the head. Wheat will only wither and die after a short while. You want something that will keep them there year round. If you don't already have some I would plant a small section, say 1 to 1.5 acres or so, of some type of tall grass that they would make into a bedding area. The more they feel at home the more they will stay. Again, that's just me, it really depends on what you already have. Also, if you are going to hunt it, you would do well to get your stand(s) up quick and let them get used to seeing them and become comfortable with them. The other thing is the horses. Generally speaking, deer don't want to be around any other animals. I would either pen the horses up or get rid of them all together. 

Last minute deal...

Summary: If I have "jumped on" any one particular individual I am sorry, I didn't think that I had. But when Philip said what he said in his first post, it was more or less true. I do not want to offend the folks that placed the ad and I'm sure it's a nice place and probably has nice animals but the advertisement is for the deer, not a lease. It clearly staes what the cost of a management buck is and trophy fees are listed. those reer to a deer, not the piece of land or oportunity to hunt that land. You are very passionate about your views as am I. I know that not everyone can be included in the "they". I know that there are some great people out there just trying to get by and or just provide a decent hunt for as cheap as possible. In the mean time, I guess we will have to agree to disagree.

need your opion on this matter

Summary: I may be wrong here (Brad help me out if so) but unless you signed a very broad contract that states the entire party is resposible for animals taken then the outfitter has no case at all. If your friend pulled the trigger then it's up to him to pay. Secondly, if that broad language is not listed in the contract, or you signed no contract then you have every right to sue for false imprisonment. If you did not try to defraud him by using a stolen credit card, stolen or fake checks then that should be a civil matter anyway. Exotic animals are not covered under Texas game laws except that you are required to have a valid hunting license. I can't stand when outfitters or ranch owners try to intimidate hunters. I would have called the sheriff myself. However, I can also understand some outfitters and ranch owners demanding payment for animals if they have been burned before. The bottom line is it's up to the land owner or outfitter to make sure the people that they allow to hunt know what they are hunting, how to hunt. In this case I would say that if you signed a bad contract then you're stuck. if you signed on in your favor or didn't sign one at all then I would sue them. Also if the did any damage to any of your property sue for that also. Also if you did sign a bad contract, figure out how to pay the money back and don't hunt with that guy again.

Does anyone know what bear feces looks like?

Does anyone know what bear feces looks like?
Summary: Jason, that looks like a bear pie alright. How big was it? A bears (black bear anyway) droppings will vary in shape depending on diet. Sometime it will look like a large dog, sometimes like a small horse, and sometimes like a cowpie like this one. Like I said, it really depends on diet. If it eats meat or gets good fiber it will be harder and more "log like" whereas if they are eating more fruits and non fiberous plant life it will be more paste like which is what the above looks like. But it is hard to tell from a picture. many animals make droppings like that.

What's your guess?

What's your guess?
Summary: Ya know, this is one of those cases when aging a deer proves that there is no exact science to it and that there are always animals that have certain sings that go one way or the other. I agree about the jowels. gives the appearance of an older deer but everything else that I see says younger deer. Thin neck, straight back, nose, legs pretty staight. The body isn't so thick as to give the appearance of short front legs. I see his tarsal glands have darkened up but I have never seen a deer that wasn't already stained by the second week of November. That's what makes me think he's go some "nad" problems. Of course diet can have a great affect on them too. In any case, he's old enough to harvest and put into the freezer.

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