Forgot to mention - that's $60 per day for a total of $120 for the weekend plus motel and meals.............

Sounds like fun. I have been looking around for some Dove hunting this fall.

If this doesn't work out. can you email me with the guys info so I can look into a hunt. Opening of the south season would be perfect. texpppr@aol.com Thanks. Steve

Sure, Steve:

Doesn't look like there is much interest on the board for a dove hunt anyway.  Call Fred Knapper at (830) 965-2837.

The daily rate has gone up to $60 per day, but there are birds out the wazoo there each year.

ICM

Jim, I'm interested. A buddy of mine and myself would like to go, but just for one day. Is that possible or does it need to be the weekend? Let me know and if so we could meet you there. Thanks.

Steve San Antonio Hunt Del Rio, and Rocksprings areas

If anyone was looking to go here, I would be willing to share a hotel room. Steve

In answer to each question -

SACE:  it is possible for just one day.  You pay Fred each AM for the hunt that day.  Please let me know which day and if you need a room.

SteveC:  So long as you don't snore, I'll share a room with you.

Ya'll let me know and I'll find the motel closest to the hunt.

ICM

Jim we were just gonna hunt that saturday morning, I believe it's the 20th. If you need our names it Steve Tallant (me) and Jamie Smith. We're not gonna spend the night, just head on home after the evening hunt. Let me know what else you need to know, and looking forward to meeting you.

Steve San Antonio Hunt Del Rio, and Rocksprings areas

I will be calling Fred this weekend to pass on our names, get the name of a hotel and to find out a meeting point.

I'll let ya'll know.

ICM

Sounds good, just let me know if you have any questions....later..

Steve San Antonio Hunt Del Rio, and Rocksprings areas

I'm going to try to get down there for a hunt Jim.  I've been wanting to, but I dont want to say I can and then have to back out. Plus it gets me all excited and then depressed ;>)

These last few weeks have been really rough with quiting a job, getting a new one, selling a house and trying to get another house.  I'm not sure what's going to be going on mid-September, but I hope it's me on a dove hunt with you guys. 

Thanks for putting all this together.  It sounds like an awesome place!

Allen

Hunt Hard. Fish Smart. Explore Texas.

Just to let you know, I'd go if it was later, but teal season gets my attention when its on, plenty of time to shoot greywings between that and big dux.

Do nob= DOA wingshooting

Allen  - I sure understand the traumas of moving, having gone through it more than 30 times in my life - it never gets easier, only harder.  The good news is you get to throw out all the junk that has accumulated.  Dad used to say that three moves equals a fire.

Please let me know if you need a motel room  and I'll try to line one up for you.

So far its SteveC, his buddy Jamie, SACE, Allen (tentative),  my buddy Doug, possibly one of his sons, Dusty D. Dog and me.  Should make for a good hunt.

Andy - if you decide that the agony of the mosquitos outweighs the extacy of early teal season, let us know!!!  Two years ago the mosquitos (the state bird of Katy)  were merciless and I did not go back last year.

The limit is 12 per day and 24 in posession. If you get caught on opening day with 24 you will get a big fine.

Unfortunately Gman is correct.  The limit is 12 per day and i think the possession limit is 24, but I may be wrong on that. 

In Mexico, the dove is looked as a pest that destroys crops.  The limit (if there really is one) is 40 or 50 birds per day. I have shot them down there until the barrel is too hot to touch.  (and that is shooting two guns!)

In the US it is considered a migratory songbird (and therefore managed by the federal government and not the individual state governments).  It would be totally protected if it weren't for the hunting lobby.  

Less than 10% of all dove deaths each year are attributed to hunting.

  I would guess that more shot shells are consumed for dove hunting than any other hunted animal. In dilley, we should get our limits pretty quickly.

The way I shoot sometimes - that's about three or four boxes of shells! 

Ok, from what I've read "possession" when it comes to birds is no longer considered once the game is at it's final place. So if you take what you shot home in the morning and threw them in freezer, would you be able to shoot more in the afternoon? I hate to sound greedy, but this will probably be my only dove hunt this season, and I would like to have a decent amount for the BBQ during deer season.

Steve San Antonio Hunt Del Rio, and Rocksprings areas

Steve:

I'll make sure you have plenty of doves.  Since I will be hunting doves (hopefully) on several occasions this year you can have a bunch of mine.

We can also discuss limits and possession stuff when we get there.....

"Ok, from what I've read "possession" when it comes to birds is no longer considered once the game is at it's final place. So if you take what you shot home in the morning and threw them in freezer, would you be able to shoot more in the afternoon? " SACE, not only is that highly unethical, it is also AGAINST THE LAW!!!!!! The daily bag limit is just that, DAILY!!! It does not mean that you can shoot a limit in the morning, go home and process them, then go out and shoot another limit!!! "I hate to sound greedy, but this will probably be my only dove hunt this season, and I would like to have a decent amount for the BBQ during deer season" Unfortunately, many hunters, especially dove hunters do this and think it's alright. It's called DOUBLE DIPPING and it's against the law. When I hear of people doing this, I do everything possible to report them to the authorities.

______________________________________ If the ducks are flying today. . . . then we'll see some.

Relax Gmann, it was a simple question of how I percieved the law. I would be the last person to do anything unethical or illegal so please don't jump to conclusions unless you know me. I will shoot what the law says I'm allowed to shoot, I don't write them I just read them. Now my understanding of the game laws might not be as extensive as yours but I can guarantee you that I would never knowingly do anything illegal. I think you're getting a little ruffeled with little information but some people are just a little jumpy. So you are saying that the definition of possesion does not mean what it reads in this years 2003-2004 TXPWD handout? I know ignorance is not an excuse, and that is what I thought forums like this were for? To ask questions and get information on things you might not understand. So you should take a step back and deflate your chest a little. Appreciate you polite insight though.

Steve San Antonio Hunt Del Rio, and Rocksprings areas

Durn Gary - Who lit the fuse to your tampon ????? 

You need to get your facts straight before you step into a board and immediately start criticizing - especially when you don't even undertand what the statement was in the beginning. 

All he was concerned about was having enough birds to cook later in the year since this was going to be his only dove hunt -  I even responded that I would give him some of my birds since I would be going on several more hunts. 

Suggest that the next time you jump in with guns blazing you have a full comprehension of the facts.

Jim

Take it easy on old gary, he's a moderator at another site and is accustomed to dealing with a bunch of thick skinned ahole rednecks and outlaw barnies.  I've noticed just about everyone over here is extremely helpful and nice a good reason why I keep coming back.  I've met the guy, but I guess that's a hot button issue for him.

Do nob= DOA wingshooting

Sorry fellas, didnt' mean to come across in such a harsh manner. But "double dipping" as I call it is a common practice among many dove hunters, mostly on opening day and/or weekend. As you might can tell, I have a real problem with it. Didn't mean to threaten you in any way or imply you were ignorant of the game laws. It's impossible to tell what hunting experience people have via an internet forum. Jim, what facts do I not have straight??? Even though you responded that you would be willing to give him some extra birds, his initial post says that he "might" want to shoot a limit, process them, then go out and shoot another limit. How can my facts be not straight when someone says something like that? So you're saying that because it's his only dove hunt of the year, he can go out and do this??? I moderate another forum on another site. I do not and will not jump on someone, delete or edit a post without a full understanding of what is going on. I read the man's statement and had little trouble concluding it constituted double dipping. Now, the manner in which I made my response could have been a little better, I agree. But when I see stuff like this, it really gets to me. Have a good dove shoot SACE and I hope you limit out!!!!!

______________________________________ If the ducks are flying today. . . . then we'll see some.

Also SACE, possession limit for an opening day of any season is ONLY that's days bag limit. The possession comes into play when you go on say a weekend hunting trip. You hunt two days and you have two limits of birds. You are allowed to bring all of them home. Now, if you go on a three day trip, you better eat some or give some away, because your possession limit is only twice your daily bag limit.

______________________________________ If the ducks are flying today. . . . then we'll see some.

Gmann is correct, 12 birds is the legal posession for opening day unless you are hunting a 15 bird limit area. Now on the second day you can do the double dippin. Im just kidding Gmann, just giving you a hard time. Welcome to the forum. What is the forum that you moderate?

Not to promote another site (some sites don't like that) so if I may. . . I hang out over on the Texas forum at duckhunter.net on The Duck Hunters Refuge. www.duckhunter.net There was a guy who went by gman with one n who popped in our forum a while back, was that you?

______________________________________ If the ducks are flying today. . . . then we'll see some.

Gmann (with 2 n’s) :

I do NOT want to belabor a point here, nor do I want to have any additional acrimony on this board, but I DO want to have everybody get their facts straight. 

You stated, “his initial post says that he "might" want to shoot a limit, process them, then go out and shoot another limit. “

That is incorrect, Gmann.  Go back and read the post again.  He simply asked “if you take what you shot home in the morning and threw them in freezer, would you be able to shoot more in the afternoon?”  

All he did was ask the question.  This is a discussion board and he was asking for guidance, which he got.

Gmann, you also said, “So you're saying that because it's his only dove hunt of the year, he can go out and do this???” 

I do not know what leads you to this conclusion as I merely stated in my original reply, “I'll make sure you have plenty of doves.  Since I will be hunting doves (hopefully) on several occasions this year you can have a bunch of mine.”  Because I defended him in my next post also does not endorse ‘double dipping’. 

Gmann you also stated “ I moderate another forum on another site. I do not and will not jump on someone, delete or edit a post without a full understanding of what is going on.” 

I am impressed that you are a moderator on another board and I am also impressed that you attempt to hold yourself to such lofty standards.  But after your two posts, it’s a bit difficult to believe that you meet these standards all the time.

Have been working hard to find a couple of motel rooms in the area -it is solid booked up with dove hunters on opening weekend for about 50 miles around Dilley.  Will keep looking, though.

Hey Allen - how far is New Brunfels from Dilley?  Would Mrs Allen mind if we all bunked up there for the weekend?????   ;>)  LOL  We might even help unpack and hang curtains and stuff!!!

Jim I Spoke to Fred today and had a few questions that maybe you could answer if possible. I just joined this forum today but my email is : texasreo@aol.com Thanks In advance, BKW

TexasReo:  Welcome to the board!   You've got mail.  (or will have it in a few minutes anyway!

SteveC:  Have finally found motel rooms in Dilley.  got em booked! 

SACE and SteveC:  Will be sending you emails about meeting point in the next day or two

ICMCumin 

I just saw this post Jim.  I wish I had seen it sooner.  We could have used the help ;>)  We're STILL unpacking.  New Braunfels is on I35 betweek Austin and San Antonio.  Where abouts is Dilley?

Allen