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Texas hunting costs?

Westvirtex
Westvirtex
Westvirtex writes about Texas hunting costs?
Points: Y (51) / M (51)
Williamson county

I'm mainly venting so please don't be offended. I'm just looking for some answers.

I'm kinda new to Texas. The Army shipped me here in dec 99. I've been out for a while, but I've stayed here with the mortgage, suv, kids...etc. I'm from West Virginia so I love to hunt, but never hunted Texas until 2007. My neighbor took me to his mom's small 100 acre ranch and I've gotten 3 deer there.  This year I have no place to go and honestly I can't afford several thousand dollars for a lease.  Living in Austin has really left a bad taste of Texas and then finding a place to hunt is another matter.  In WV, the only thing a hunter needs is a landowner's written permission to hunt.  Also, WV farmers are almost begging for hunters to save their crop.  They can request for permits for hunters to harvest more deer.  Here in Texas, ranchers, farmers seem to always want money even for a small, low fenced 14 acre field. I can't believe how much it costs to even shoot a pig. They can keep their $200+ pigs. Spending $10,000+ to have a guide set you up next to a feeder in a blind where you've never been so you can shoot a hand fed super buck is NOT hunting? It's expensive, glorified target practice. If I had $10,000+ for hunting, I'd put a down payment on some land where I'd do the work and the real hunting. So why does it cost so much to hunt in Texas?  I get upset paying $30 for a box of ammo. Other than public hunting land or going when a buddy goes to his land, where do poor people hunt in Texas?  It's very sad that in largest state in the continental U.S., that it's cheaper for me to drive to Kansas to bird hunt or drive to WV to deer hunt. 
Thanks for lettin' me vent.

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glpoe1

glpoe1 writes about
Points: Y (66) / M (6)

I agree, it is expensive to hunt in TX, but it doesn't necessarily have to be.  It seems to me that the advertised leases on here are priced well over most peoples budgets.  That is just a result of supply and demand.  I have had leases sold out from under me but the land owner got about 4X the amount we were paying.  I would probably do the same thing.  However there are a lot of public hunts around the state if you are willing to do some leg work.  TPWL has a lot of hunts on their web site but you have to apply for them.  The Army Corp. of Engineers also has a lot of public hunting land all over the state.  I live in a small town in ranch country and through word of mouth I found my deer lease this year for $5 an acre for the year.  That is cheap.  We have 4 hunters on the property at a cost of $800 ea.   I found one lease a few years ago by just driving around the country side finding a spot of land that I wanted to hunt and contacted the landowner and we made a deal.  I dropped out of that lease due to work but the other guys are still there.  Living in the City makes it a bit harder for someone to make contacts with ranchers.  Good luck, but don't loose hope not all of the properties are overpriced, just most of them you hear about.

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jakhunter

jakhunter writes about
Points: Y (771) / M (34)

COYOTE

yes it is VERRRY expensive. we are fortunate enough to be on a lease thats not too expensive. we have it made where we are..no huge bucks but some good ones (for the hill country), a good camp house, good owners, and good friends. its a shame that you talk about those guys who pay big bucks to shoot a monster deer, i guarantee they throw most of that meat away cause they could care less about it...they want the horns. just shop around and talk with people and maybe you could find a lease or slip into a lease with someone you know thats not gonna hit the wallet too hard.

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murphy1961
murphy1961
murphy1961 writes about
Points: Y (2438) / M (240)

It takes a lot of time and a lot of legwork.  The supply and demand here in Texas is definitely in favor of the landowners.  That being said, good old fashioned door knocking is one option, and a man who has served our country in uniform still has some pull here in Texas. Another option is talk to folks at your church and see if they know of any places.  Your local gun range or gun club could also be a great source of info.

As Gary said, you have to draw but some of the public hunts can be pretty good here in the state.  Any ways wishing you the best of luck in finding an affordable place to hunt.

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Westvirtex
Westvirtex
Westvirtex writes about
Points: Y (51) / M (51)
Williamson county

I appreciate the info. You're right about the lack of ranch contacts.  It seems all my contacts are in suburbia, new to Texas, or their family is extremely stingy with their land.  I guess it is their land after all.  They impose so many rules that the fun of the sport is taken out.  "You can't shoot this deer b/c cousin Bob has been watching it since last year, you can't hunt at this certain spot on Saturdays, no spittin' seeds, that 7mm mag will shoot too far, that 30-30 isn’t accurate enough, don't scare the horses, be quiet driving up at 5 a.m.,....do your homework, brush your teeth, be home by 9, look both ways"...you get my point.  I've always been taught hunter safety and responsibility.  I had hunter safety education when I was 13 at our middle school.  Yes. The WV DNR sends an officer to the schools in West Virginia.  As a kid, there were several deer I didn't shoot b/c I wasn't sure what was behind them.  I used to get scolded for pointing a water gun at my sister. It just really bothers me b/c my family's land is not here, but my family is.  On days I didn't have some kind of ball practice, I remember walking home from school and being at my favorite hunting spot in 15 minutes.  That wasn't that long ago b/c I'm only 30.  From my parents' backyard, I could literally throw a rock and hit one of my tree stands.  Those days are over.   I have looked into the public hunting lands through the Army Corp. of Engineers and it’s probably what I’ll do for next year.  I may have to get into bow hunting again and break out the 1989 Golden Eagle Turbo.  I often talk to some ranchers when I go to my VA appointments, but I don’t want to take advantage of the situation.  Thanks again for the info.

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Westvirtex
Westvirtex
Westvirtex writes about
Points: Y (51) / M (51)
Williamson county

I guess I will have to get motivated for next year.  I was going to start door knocking, but I don't particularly like getting shot at.  I'm just kidding.  I've never put myself into a situation in Texas to get shot at.  I never expected all the mature and generous responses and I really appreciate it.  I just assumed everyone would tell me to go back to WV or somewhere else.  Speaking of deer meat, have any of yall tried canning it in Mason jars?  It's mainly a WV thing, but it is worth it.  In 2003, I ate a deer shot in 1996 or 97. 

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ccoker

ccoker writes about
Points: Y (297) / M (19)

yeah, it's very frustrating and hard to find a decent place

I have had the good fortune of being able to hunt on friend's places but was always at the mercy of their schedules... I wanted my OWN place!

I looked hard and found a place, a little less than 200 acres, 3 people, 1500 per gun

it's not perfect, but it's between Austin and Houston where my brother lives...

we can't have guests out during deer season, but perhaps we could setup a hog hunt after season opens

I would check craigsist for Austin, San Antiono and Houston

I bet there are some spots open you could find that need to get filled

I'll dig around some and PM you if anything looks interesting

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E.TX.BOWHUNTER
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Points: Y (567) / M (92)
Montgomery county

Josh, you have several options. I hunt on well over 250,000 acres for <$250.00 a year. It is work, I don't get to invest anything into the land or animals I hunt. The quality is not top notch but I do put meat in the freezer. It does allow me to get my fair share of time in the woods. Send me a PM if you want to know more.

GO CLIMB A TREE, TIM

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wohalliburton
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Points: Y (42628) / M (1608)

Josh,

For us it took a long time to get to know folks, but keep at it.  I've lived down here for almost 30 years now (orig from PA), so I have a pretty good idea of the change in situations you're faced with.  For the last 10 years we've essentially been invited to go to a very generous rancher's place for a week during the season.  Yes we pay, but its a fraction of what he could get.  Those type of folks are out there.  Lord willing, you'll find one.

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ccoker

ccoker writes about
Points: Y (297) / M (19)

checking through craigslist, saw this

 

http://austin.craigslist.org/spo/1429115311.html

 

 

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Westvirtex
Westvirtex
Westvirtex writes about
Points: Y (51) / M (51)
Williamson county

Mr. Coker, that's sounds good. I'm not sure how to "PM" so you'll have to bare w/ me.  I am from West Virginia you know.

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Westvirtex
Westvirtex
Westvirtex writes about
Points: Y (51) / M (51)
Williamson county

I'm good w/ a doe only, but that leaves too much gray area for the bucks being priced per point.  I wouldn't want to screw up and accidentally shoot a buck standing behind...beyond a doe and go home w/ a $1500 bill. I'll talk to my financial advisor a.k.a. the MRS. Thanks for that link.

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HankTX
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HankTX writes about
Points: Y (1088) / M (162)

http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/huntwild/hunt/public/

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Westvirtex
Westvirtex
Westvirtex writes about
Points: Y (51) / M (51)
Williamson county

HAPPY

Thank you, Mr. Hank.

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TEXASBEAN06
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TEXASBEAN06 writes about
Points: Y (214) / M (58)

go back to WV... lol Just kidding. Have you ever looked at hunting on the public property provided by TPWD? I think the permit is like $40. Check out their site do find out more info.

LET HIM GO SO HE CAN GROW!

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wyleecoyotetx

wyleecoyotetx writes about
Points: Y (617) / M (617)

GOOFY I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you're at the hands of capitalism. It's all about supply and demand. Texas is the apex of trophy white-tail hunting. Not just in rack size, but by the vast numbers of tropy class deer. Not to mention Texas has the largest population of white-tail deer than most of the other states combined!....and because of these factors it has become a multi-billion dollar plus booming buisness as well as one of the fastest growing ventures you can invest in. That said, I feel your pain!....After years of protecting these resources so others can hunt, I have been fortunate enough to get to view, and occasionally hunt, deer on many ranches all over the state. I, too, couldn't afford to pay what some of the upper end leases are going for in south Texas. Okay, probably not even lower end leases in south Texas. It's BIG BUSINESS! Most ranchers in the prime hunting areas have had the good luck to have that asset to offset their losses from the decline of livestock production. Let's face it. Ranches in those regions are vast....and so are their soaring land taxes and maintenance costs. Owning land is a never ending financial drain. It just doesn't set there and cost the owner nothing. If it did, we'd all be in south Texas hunting every year! Hunting has become the primary source of revenue to those landowners. If it weren't for the demand for such good leases....most ranches would have already gone belly up. Livestock production just cannot keep up with the costs of maintaining such vast amounts of land. You're unfortunately in tough part of Texas to bargain hunt for a hunting lease. Try looking further east and north of Austin. You'll find a reasonable lease that may not be large in size as south Texas ranches go, but will be capable of producing large amounts of deer and even a few trophy class bucks. Bottom line......Big Ranches + Big Racks = Big Bucks! Look for the more fractured parcels of land to the east or search for hunting leases in the price range you want. They ARE out there. Edwards Plateau, Hill Country, and South Texas is where the highest demand for deer hunting are. Heck, just look at any hunting show on TV....they may hunt in other parts of the country....but they ALL brag on their south Texas deer hunts! Those shows have only increased the demand for leases in the south...... If I didn't own where I hunt, I'd be with you for hunting outside the state....huge deer up north!

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Westvirtex
Westvirtex
Westvirtex writes about
Points: Y (51) / M (51)
Williamson county

WyleeCoyoteTX, I understand what you're saying that it is big business.  I don't, however understand why one would pay $25,000 for a whitetail buck.  As I said in a previous post, wouldn't it be more cost effective to put that lump sum on your own management operation or land?  I would never pay that.  That's probably why I'm stuck at home playing Duck Hunt on the original Nintendo.  I've heard trophy buck sperm is auctioned off for a lot of doe(sorry couldn't resist that one).  Seriously, I can't believe that is such a hot commodity for sperm.  It may not be a huge help, but I always buy Texas beef.  I can't think of any other way I can help.  I'll figure out a way to go hunting in Texas, though.  I don't want to overanalyze the politics and economics of the whole thing.  I just want a little piece of land for a spike or doe for the freezer.  I'll worry about those big bucks and large leases after I get my feet wet in this whole Texas lease operation.  As far as public hunting opportunities, I don't want to get mistaken for game.  If I do get shot at, they better kill me.  I uphold a zero tolerance policy for getting shot at.  I do appreciate your info.

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E.TX.BOWHUNTER
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Points: Y (567) / M (92)
Montgomery county

I believe in capitolism. However PT. Barnum said it best, "There's a sucker born every minute." And gentlemen, I'm no sucker. One must have more money than they need to go puting 10-20 thousand dollars on a single deer. And guess what? That price comes from the ANTLERS. The rest of the animal is a by-product. This is not what hunting needs. This should not be how hunting is perceived because it will ruin hunting. When these obsene amount of dollars are charged, an animal is killed for the temporary hardware on his head and the meat is often times donated (I'm hoping) or it secondary on the list.

There is no solution to this as long as those with deep pockets are so willing to part with that kind of money. In the future, if that urge to part with your money strikes you, sent me a PM and I will be happy to supply my mailing address.

GO CLIMB A TREE, TIM

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wyleecoyotetx

wyleecoyotetx writes about
Points: Y (617) / M (617)

CRYING westtx, the guys paying these outrageous prices for the prime leases don't mind paying.....money is no problem to them. Thats why I have my own place that I own and do my own management. If you're going to invest....invest on something that's going to be yours someday. I've seen way too many guys invest tons of money and time into management only to lose their leases because some outfit with deep pockets took a liking to the quality of white-tail they were producing. Sometimes good is bad! I have to agree with E.TX.Bowhunter........I'm from the old school with Uncle Ted Nuge.....Trophies are nice, but where's the horn soup!

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HankTX
HankTX
HankTX writes about
Points: Y (1088) / M (162)

No problem, hope it helps.

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ccoker

ccoker writes about
Points: Y (297) / M (19)

your best options for just getting some meat is via public hunting lands with a bow

not necassarly the highest percentage chance of actually bagging one, but the best odds of getting an affordable hunt

public hunting here seems difficult to get a handle on it, I have a buddy that does it and has taken a few does at lake Grainger just north east of Austin



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Westvirtex
Westvirtex
Westvirtex writes about
Points: Y (51) / M (51)
Williamson county

I actually found a couple of $150 day leases.  They're free-ranging, low fence leases so you can shoot whatever legal comes out.  No trophy fees if it's a nice buck or anything like that.  One lease consisted of 2 deer for $150.  Either a buck and a doe or 2 does, or 1 doe and some hogs.  Sounds good to me.  I'm trying it this weekend.  My freezer shall be full.  Next summer I'm entering every public drawing possible and getting a nice bow.  I will be ready for Fall 2010.

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ccoker

ccoker writes about
Points: Y (297) / M (19)

hey man.. that sounds like a heck of a deal

you want something ultra tasty?

go for an axis doe

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