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Forums >> Texas Hunting >> Gun Talk >> Defense Policy on Undercutting Ammo Reversed After 2 Montana Senators Intervene

Defense Policy on Undercutting Ammo Reversed After 2 Montana Senators Intervene

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LIGHTNING

By Drew Zahn (from WorldNetDaily)

Responding to two Democratic senators representing outraged private gun owners, the Department of Defense announced last night it has scrapped a new policy that would deplete the supply of ammunition by requiring destruction of fired military cartridge
brass.

The policy already had taken a bite out of the nation's stressed ammunition supply, leaving arms dealers scrambling to find ammo for private gun owners.


Mark Cunningham, a legislative affairs representative with the Defense Logistics Agency, explained in an e-mail last night to the office of Sen. Jon Tester, D-Mont., that the Department of Defense had placed small arms cartridge cases on its list of sensitive munitions items as part of an overall effort to ensure national security is not jeopardized in the sale of any Defense property.

The small arms cases were identified as a senstive item and were held pending review of policy, he said.
"Upon review, the Defense Logistics Agency has determined the cartridge cases could be appropriately placed in a category of government property allowing for their release for sale," Cunningham wrote.

The Defense Department liaison was responding to a letter yesterday to the Defense Logistic Agency's Vice Admiral Alan S. Thompson from Tester and fellow Montana Democrat Sen. Max Baucus. The senators argued "prohibiting the sale of fired military brass would reduce the supply of ammunition – preventing individual gun owners from fully exercising their Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms. We urge you to address this situation promptly."
Learn here why it's your right -- and duty -- to be armed.

One of the companies that brought attention to the issue is Georgia Arms, which for the last 15 years has been purchasing fired brass casings from the Department of Defense and private government surplus liquidators. The military collects the discarded casings from fired rounds, then sells them through liquidators to companies like Georgia Arms that remanufacture the casings into ammunition for the law enforcement and civilian gun owner communities.


But earlier this month, Georgia Arms received a canceled order, informed by its supplier that the government now requires fired brass casings be mutilated, in other words, destroyed to a scrap metal state.

The policy change, handed down from the Department of Defense through the Defense Logistics Agency, cut a supply leg out from underneath ammunition manufacturers.
The policy compelled Georgia Arms to cancel all sales of .223 and .308 ammunition, rounds used, respectively, in semi-automatic and deer hunting rifles, until further notice. Sharch Manufacturing, Inc. had announced the same cancellation of its .223 and .308 brass reloading components.

"They just reclassified brass to allow destruction of it, based on what?" Georgia Arms owner Larry Haynie asked WND. "We've been 'going green' for the last dozen years, and brass is one of the most recyclable materials out there. A cartridge case can be used over and over again. And now we're going to destroy it based on what? We don't want the civilian public to have it? It's a government injustice."


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RE: Defense Policy on Undercutting Ammo Reversed After 2 Montana Senators Intervene

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I'm for impeachment and imprisionment of the president and anyone else trying to subvert our rights under the 2nd or any other amendment.

 

It's time that our elected officials in Washington understand that if they are making self serving policies, the American people not only have the right but the responsibility to cause corrections to the self serving laws or take actions to replace the self serving elected officials.

 

Instead of making laws to keep undesirables from obtaining and using these spent ammo cases against us, how about finding and deporting the undesirables? How about using the same kind of jihad against them that they want to use against us? After all, wasn't it God that gave David power over Goliath?

RE: Defense Policy on Undercutting Ammo Reversed After 2 Montana Senators Intervene

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This edict came down form the DOD last Thursday, summarized here.  All-in-all I'm thankful somebody up the in DC is still standing-up for our rights.  Let's hope the Obama administration got the message...rest assured they were paying attention. 

But, what I'm wondering is where were Cornyn and Hutchison in this whole deal?  If it was a company in Georgia that brought this to the public's attention, and two Senators from Montana pressed the DOD, my guess is they knew something about it.

I generally like Cornyn, but if either one of them don't or won't stand-up they need to sit down...on a plane permanently out of DC.

RE: Defense Policy on Undercutting Ammo Reversed After 2 Montana Senators Intervene

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well its come down to the "what are the americans able to do......." Do they want another John Brown? more heros? another civil war, if u remeber ur civil war history, the government tried this before and helped cause the war. brown raided an armory and was caught and killed as a result. i think they want that agan, but instead of fighting each other, it would more then likely be us little people aginst big corporate companies.  but thats my opinion. i too am for the impeechment and imprisionment of elected officals.

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I'm all for telling most of our politicians to take a hike, or impeach them, or even to put some of them on trial for treason, but let's not get our facts mixed-up here...Brown raided the armory in Harpers Ferry, VA because he wanted to take-up arms against those enslaving blacks, not against the United States government. 

Interestingly enough, two of the men actually involved in capturing Brown just happened to be two U.S. Army officers named Robert E. Lee and J.E.B. Stewart, who later fought for the south.  Brown wasn't killed in the raid, he was hung 90 days or so later after a trial.  The hanging was witnessed by none other than John Wilkes Booth (of Abraham Lincoln fame).  Pretty twisted set of circumstances really.

I don't go for the idea that corporate America would somehow fight American citizens.  They don't have the weaponry for something like that nor could they ever get it.  

 

RE: Defense Policy on Undercutting Ammo Reversed After 2 Montana Senators Intervene

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your right david on brown. i was using that as an example, he also raided the armory to get a ponit across, he need arms to free the slaves yes, but his followers didnt have the up to date weaponry that the government had, so he raided harpers ferry and was later caught and then of course hung. but there were other factors in that cause not just free the slaves. Brown was a good man. the corporate america could be the ones who fight the citizens and they may not, thats just my gut feeling on the matter.

like the old saying says never under estimate your opponites, and expected the un expected and plan for the worst.

because an attack can and will come from the least expected place.

RE: Defense Policy on Undercutting Ammo Reversed After 2 Montana Senators Intervene

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We may be chasing a little rabbit trail here, but this is probably a good one to chase because I agree, there were more reasons for the Civil War starting than slavery.  Frankly slavery was more of a catalyst than a cause.  there were State's Rights, cultural, and financial reasons as well.  If you can ever get hold of a book called "The Lost Cause" readi t, because it will give you a pretty good version of what the South though about it all.  Its been out of print for a very long time, but Yahoo is carrying it in paperback now.

I would agree that Brown's basic intentions were honorable.  However, a murderer is still a murderer.  That is, you don't do wrong (murder and steal) to do right (free slaves). I found it even more interesting that the first casualty of his raid was a free black man, a baggage handler who confronted the raiders.

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I hate those words...Honorable intentions. They don't mean squat!

GO CLIMB A TREE, TIM

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